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> <channel><title>Comments on: How To Retain Your IT Employees For Longer</title> <atom:link href="http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/</link> <description>For the betterment of the software craft...</description> <lastBuildDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:57:06 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2</generator> <item><title>By: IT Retention &#171; Enterprise Collaboration Blog</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-7269</link> <dc:creator>IT Retention &#171; Enterprise Collaboration Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:38:18 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-7269</guid> <description>[...] http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/   GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;AdOpt&quot;, &quot;1&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;Origin&quot;, &quot;other&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_bg&quot;, &quot;f0f0f0&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_border&quot;, &quot;cccccc&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_text&quot;, &quot;555555&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_link&quot;, &quot;008DCF&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_url&quot;, &quot;008DCF&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;LangId&quot;, &quot;1&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;Autotag&quot;, &quot;technology&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;Tag&quot;, &quot;career&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;Tag&quot;, &quot;professional&quot;); GA_googleFillSlot(&quot;wpcom_below_post&quot;); [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a
href="http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/</a> GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;AdOpt&quot;, &quot;1&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;Origin&quot;, &quot;other&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_bg&quot;, &quot;f0f0f0&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_border&quot;, &quot;cccccc&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_text&quot;, &quot;555555&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_link&quot;, &quot;008DCF&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;theme_url&quot;, &quot;008DCF&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;LangId&quot;, &quot;1&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;Autotag&quot;, &quot;technology&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;Tag&quot;, &quot;career&quot;); GA_googleAddAttr(&quot;Tag&quot;, &quot;professional&quot;); GA_googleFillSlot(&quot;wpcom_below_post&quot;); [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: IT Retention &#171; Enterprise Collaboration Blog</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-6841</link> <dc:creator>IT Retention &#171; Enterprise Collaboration Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 01 Feb 2011 12:50:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-6841</guid> <description>[...] http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/           Categories: Career        Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment Trackback [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a
href="http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/</a> Categories: Career        Comments (0) Trackbacks (0) Leave a comment Trackback [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jason</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-6704</link> <dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 06 Dec 2010 18:40:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-6704</guid> <description>Some nice points.  I don&#039;t necessarily think forcing people to socialize after work is a winner.  Especially at the &quot;pub&quot;?  What about the folks that don&#039;t appreciate alcohol and smoky environment?  I have a family and am a grad student and run my own side consulting business.  Being pushed into sitting with the same blokes that I see 50 hours a week doesn&#039;t sound appealing.
One thing you didn&#039;t mention...stop propagating the fear of losing your job to offshore outsourcing.  Nothing is a morale killer than the daily burden of worrying about your job going to India.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some nice points.  I don&#8217;t necessarily think forcing people to socialize after work is a winner.  Especially at the &#8220;pub&#8221;?  What about the folks that don&#8217;t appreciate alcohol and smoky environment?  I have a family and am a grad student and run my own side consulting business.  Being pushed into sitting with the same blokes that I see 50 hours a week doesn&#8217;t sound appealing.</p><p>One thing you didn&#8217;t mention&#8230;stop propagating the fear of losing your job to offshore outsourcing.  Nothing is a morale killer than the daily burden of worrying about your job going to India.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alan Skorkin</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-5299</link> <dc:creator>Alan Skorkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 04:09:06 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-5299</guid> <description>I really appreciate you saying that. It is really very gratifying when people enjoy what you write.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really appreciate you saying that. It is really very gratifying when people enjoy what you write.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: droope</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-5293</link> <dc:creator>droope</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 20:10:30 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-5293</guid> <description>Agh!! everytime i finish reading a post, I click on an interesting link for another post! I&#039;ll stay here forever!! :P</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agh!! everytime i finish reading a post, I click on an interesting link for another post! I&#8217;ll stay here forever!! :P</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Alan Skorkin</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-2070</link> <dc:creator>Alan Skorkin</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:54:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-2070</guid> <description>Thanks for sharing your views, I can&#039;t argue with most of the things that you say.
However I do believe that taking a defeatist attitude towards the problem solves nothing and helps noone. Sure most of the things I mentioned are tough to do, but the are certainly worth striving for. Rather than saying &quot;well there is nothing I can do so I am not going to try&quot;, you should instead do everything in your power to reach the goals that I outlined, you may not even get close on some (or even most), but your employees will appreciate the trying, and you may get further than you think.
I look at it this way, you miss 100% of the shots you don&#039;t take, and that&#039;s true in everything in life. If you never try you will never know what you may have achieved, and how difficult something is has nothing to do with it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your views, I can&#8217;t argue with most of the things that you say.</p><p>However I do believe that taking a defeatist attitude towards the problem solves nothing and helps noone. Sure most of the things I mentioned are tough to do, but the are certainly worth striving for. Rather than saying &#8220;well there is nothing I can do so I am not going to try&#8221;, you should instead do everything in your power to reach the goals that I outlined, you may not even get close on some (or even most), but your employees will appreciate the trying, and you may get further than you think.</p><p>I look at it this way, you miss 100% of the shots you don&#8217;t take, and that&#8217;s true in everything in life. If you never try you will never know what you may have achieved, and how difficult something is has nothing to do with it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tugg Speedman</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-2068</link> <dc:creator>Tugg Speedman</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 10:28:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-2068</guid> <description>Easy to say, difficult to do.  _That&#039;s_ why the IT lifetime per employer is so low.
The job attracts those who like working with machines and systems.  But the bulk of the job isn&#039;t doing that so much as handling the mismatch between systems and people.  And because of time and schedule pressures to consistently deliver something real to the business, the work never ends.
Pay people what they&#039;re worth?  Few companies--for any of their non-core employees--do this.  Unless your skill is directly tied to the company&#039;s key revenue source, you will be a non-core employee.
Interesting work?  There may be that, on occasion, but your worth to the business is in keeping the business running.  Most of the time, that&#039;s not &#039;interesting&#039; in the way that you mean above.
Flexible? It may happen, but if so, it&#039;ll be mostly by accident.  You&#039;re in IT, people in many different departments depend on you.  Those departmental work cycles vary.  When Finance needs you most, HR may need you less.  When Support needs you most, Legal may need you less.  Nevertheless, their varying cycles of need pretty much ensure that you will constantly be responding to one set of rising departmental needs all of the time.  And if you&#039;re in the middle of a core product development cycle, the intensity will rise for all departments.
Friendly and open?  As in the real world, you&#039;ll get a mix.  Some people are naturally open.  Others can be persuaded.  Still others will refuse.  If you need a disproportionate mix of the latter type in your group (perhaps because they&#039;re the best at their job), you&#039;re not going to have a friendly group (at least as perceived from the outside.)
Hire people better than you?  Human insecurity, the dearth of real talent, and the pressure to fill critical open reqs, combine to make this a non-option in most environments.
A career path can work--for a few.  The inevitable narrowing of managerial and technical hierarchies within any company mean that only a few will grow through the ranks.
Opportunities to learn and improve?  Many large firms offer very weak training--most of it is useless &#039;compliance&#039; training--which is a turnoff for the dedicated.  Most decent training is expensive--either in terms of the registration price, travel, time away from work, etc.  Even if you try to train in-house, you&#039;ll need to use your best people to train (otherwise the value of the content is useless to attendees), and they&#039;ll need to develop training materials, refresh it, debug it, test it, etc.
Yes, I do admit I&#039;ve pointed out all of the negatives in my response.  But these are altogether too common.  _That&#039;s_ why IT turnover is so high.  These won&#039;t change.  _That&#039;s_ why IT turnover will stay high.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Easy to say, difficult to do.  _That&#8217;s_ why the IT lifetime per employer is so low.</p><p>The job attracts those who like working with machines and systems.  But the bulk of the job isn&#8217;t doing that so much as handling the mismatch between systems and people.  And because of time and schedule pressures to consistently deliver something real to the business, the work never ends.</p><p>Pay people what they&#8217;re worth?  Few companies&#8211;for any of their non-core employees&#8211;do this.  Unless your skill is directly tied to the company&#8217;s key revenue source, you will be a non-core employee.</p><p>Interesting work?  There may be that, on occasion, but your worth to the business is in keeping the business running.  Most of the time, that&#8217;s not &#8216;interesting&#8217; in the way that you mean above.</p><p>Flexible? It may happen, but if so, it&#8217;ll be mostly by accident.  You&#8217;re in IT, people in many different departments depend on you.  Those departmental work cycles vary.  When Finance needs you most, HR may need you less.  When Support needs you most, Legal may need you less.  Nevertheless, their varying cycles of need pretty much ensure that you will constantly be responding to one set of rising departmental needs all of the time.  And if you&#8217;re in the middle of a core product development cycle, the intensity will rise for all departments.</p><p>Friendly and open?  As in the real world, you&#8217;ll get a mix.  Some people are naturally open.  Others can be persuaded.  Still others will refuse.  If you need a disproportionate mix of the latter type in your group (perhaps because they&#8217;re the best at their job), you&#8217;re not going to have a friendly group (at least as perceived from the outside.)</p><p>Hire people better than you?  Human insecurity, the dearth of real talent, and the pressure to fill critical open reqs, combine to make this a non-option in most environments.</p><p>A career path can work&#8211;for a few.  The inevitable narrowing of managerial and technical hierarchies within any company mean that only a few will grow through the ranks.</p><p>Opportunities to learn and improve?  Many large firms offer very weak training&#8211;most of it is useless &#8216;compliance&#8217; training&#8211;which is a turnoff for the dedicated.  Most decent training is expensive&#8211;either in terms of the registration price, travel, time away from work, etc.  Even if you try to train in-house, you&#8217;ll need to use your best people to train (otherwise the value of the content is useless to attendees), and they&#8217;ll need to develop training materials, refresh it, debug it, test it, etc.</p><p>Yes, I do admit I&#8217;ve pointed out all of the negatives in my response.  But these are altogether too common.  _That&#8217;s_ why IT turnover is so high.  These won&#8217;t change.  _That&#8217;s_ why IT turnover will stay high.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Personal Trainer</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-1820</link> <dc:creator>Personal Trainer</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:06:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-1820</guid> <description>I had a corproate wellness compnay and this stuff is so true everyone needs it in the workplace</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a corproate wellness compnay and this stuff is so true everyone needs it in the workplace</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: IT Retention - Imperative For All IT Professionals To Understand &#171; MarkBauer&#8217;s Blog</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-1655</link> <dc:creator>IT Retention - Imperative For All IT Professionals To Understand &#171; MarkBauer&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:28:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-1655</guid> <description>[...] This is a great write-up on IT retention.  So many times IT is looked at as a cost center and not much thought is put into the people and their careers.  They are people and they do have careers and most IT people I know wish to better themselves. Take the time to read through these tips and put them into practice in either your career or in the organization that you are in now. Both can be improved no matter where you are at.  How To Retain Your IT Employees For Longer [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is a great write-up on IT retention.  So many times IT is looked at as a cost center and not much thought is put into the people and their careers.  They are people and they do have careers and most IT people I know wish to better themselves. Take the time to read through these tips and put them into practice in either your career or in the organization that you are in now. Both can be improved no matter where you are at.  How To Retain Your IT Employees For Longer [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: softwaredevelopment</title><link>http://www.skorks.com/2008/09/how-to-retain-your-it-employees-for-longer/comment-page-1/#comment-1650</link> <dc:creator>softwaredevelopment</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:50:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.skorks.com/?p=82#comment-1650</guid> <description>great site!!some common sense ways to make people happier at work, and make them not want to leave. thumbs up!!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great site!!some common sense ways to make people happier at work, and make them not want to leave. thumbs up!!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
